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Rouran... or Loulan?

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« on: March 24, 2010, 02:37:53 pm »

We all know that Emishi is a descendant of the ancient chinese kingdom of Rouran.

I thought that was a term invented in the manga, but when I was consulting some data, I found that perhaps what Emishi really says is "Loulan" instead "Rouran". In Japanese there's no "l" ... and it's replaced by "r"

Loulan's kingdom really existed....

http://yeschinatour.com/china-guides/china-attractions/loulan-ancient-city-korla/

But on the other hand... "Rouran" also exists in the chinese history, as a confederation of nomad tribes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouran_Khaganate

Emishi talked about it in vol. 12, and said that was descendant "of the ancient Rouran Kingdom that prospered on the silk road".

What do you think; "Loulan" or "Rouran"?
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 03:04:28 pm »

Sounds like it'd have to be Loulan, since the article says they were the kingdom on the Silk Road. Cool info.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 03:20:26 pm »

Thank you!

I was surprised when I found it, and I thought it might be interesting for other fans of this manga.

It's a manga full of surprises; Yuya Aoki, the writer, apparently made an amazing work of documentation.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 08:30:47 pm »

I think Loulan seems like the best choice, too -- and that's the word I'm most familiar with, for some reason.  Maybe that's the way I saw it translated in the anime or something.  Either way, it's fascinating to see that both are a possibility, and to see how so much of what we love is actually grounded in the real world! 
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2010, 03:31:09 pm »

oh, really! I didn't even know it existed! Wow! Aoki really research his works! Anyway, I agree with everyone here! It makes more sense! Thank you for sharing this wonderful information!
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2010, 12:05:56 am »

It seems like Loulan.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 10:54:46 pm »

rouran
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2010, 10:41:26 pm »

Hmm I think it's Loulan too. Thanks for the enlightening discussion!
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 01:17:35 pm »

Loulan, but Rouran is better
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 07:25:27 am »

Roulan? Louran?
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 03:21:59 pm »

Wow this is some cool info, after looking at the links you posted i would have to go with  Loulan also  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 08:55:17 am »

Hey whatever it was, Rouran has a way better edge, bsides, i wont ever think of it wit an L. and you dont hav to b this exact, if Emishi-san had a prob, he'd whipped it already
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2010, 09:18:56 am »

It probably is Loulan, but i'm already used to Rouran.
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2010, 08:40:10 pm »

i htink rouran hehe
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2010, 05:11:10 am »

thanks for the info. seems like it needs to be loulan
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